<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>desculpa, enviei errado.</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div><font face="times new roman, new york, times, serif">Alisson Lucrécio da Costa</font><br></div> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> tiago souza marçal <tiagosouzamarcal@hotmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> r-br@listas.c3sl.ufpr.br <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 19, 2012 9:09 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [R-br] Experimento fatorial. Desdobramento<br> </font> </div> <br>
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line-height:150%;">Tiago.</span></div><br><div><div id="yiv409858492SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="yiv409858492stopSpelling">From: sznelwar@uol.com.br<br>To: tiagosouzamarcal@hotmail.com<br>Subject: Fw: [R-br] Experimento fatorial. Desdobramento<br>Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:07:34 -0200<br><br>
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<div><font face="Arial"></font><font color="#0000ff" size="3" face="Arial">Poderia
enviar este arquivo UFPR1.txt, eu não estou conseguindo entrar na página do
LEG.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><br></div>
<div dir="ltr">Só completando, o pacote ExpDes é a maneira mais fácil, mas
caso você queira fazer da forma que esta fazendo é só utilizar os seguintes
comandos:
<div><br></div>
<div><font face="Courier New">rend<-read.table("C:\\Program
Files\\R\\RDADOS\\UFPR1.txt",h=T)</font></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 10pt;">attach(rend)</span></div>
<div>
<div><font face="Courier New">A<-factor(A)</font></div>
<div><font face="Courier New">K<-factor(K)</font></div></div>
<div><font face="Courier New">bloc<-factor(bloc)</font></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 10pt;">m1 <-
aov(rg~bloc+A/K)</span></div>
<div><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">KinA<-sapply(paste("A",levels(A),sep=""),simplify=F,grep,x=names(coef(m1)[m1$assign==3]))</span></div>
<div><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">
<div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%;margin-bottom:0pt;" class="yiv409858492ecxMsoNormal"><span style="line-height:150%;font-size:10pt;" lang="EN-US">DesKinA<-summary(m1, split=list("A:K"=KinA))</span></div>
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</span></div><div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="Courier New">m2 <- aov(rg~bloc+K/A)</font></div>
<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="line-height: 14px; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">AinK<-sapply(paste("K",levels(K),sep=""),simplify=F,grep,x=names(coef(m2)[m2$assign==3]))</span></div>
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<div style="text-align:justify;line-height:19px;margin-bottom:0pt;" class="yiv409858492ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;" lang="EN-US">DesAinK<-summary(m2,
split=list("A:K"=AinK))</span></div>
<div style="text-align:justify;line-height:19px;margin-bottom:0pt;" class="yiv409858492ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;" lang="EN-US">DesAinK</span></div></span></div></span>
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<div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%;margin-bottom:0pt;" class="yiv409858492ecxMsoNormal"><span style="line-height:150%;font-size:10pt;" lang="EN-US">Outra forma seria pelo método dos efeitos aninhados</span></div>
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</span></div><div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="Courier New">rend<-read.table("C:\\Program
Files\\R\\RDADOS\\UFPR1.txt",h=T)</font></div>
<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-size:10pt;"><font face="Courier New">attach(rend)</font></span></div>
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<div><font face="Courier New">A<-factor(A)</font></div>
<div><font face="Courier New">K<-factor(K)</font></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Courier New';">bloc<-factor(bloc)</span></div></div>
<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="Courier New">m1 <- aov(rg~bloc+A/K)</font></div>
<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="Courier New">effects(m1) #A partir da matriz de efeitos você seleciona os
efeitos de interesse.</font></div>
<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="text-align: justify; line-height: 19px; font-family: 'Courier New';">DesKinA<-summary(m1,
split=list("A:K"=list(A37.5=c(1,4,7,10),A50=c(2,5,8,11),A62.5=c(3,6,9,12))))</span></div>
<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="text-align: justify; line-height: 19px; font-family: 'Courier New';">DesKinA</span></div>
<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-family: 'Courier New';">m2 <- aov(rg~bloc+K/A)</span></div>
<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-family: 'Courier New';">effects(m2)</span></div>
<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="text-align: justify; line-height: 19px; font-family: 'Courier New';">DesAinK<-summary(m2,
split=list("K:A"=list(K0=c(1,6),K30=c(2,7),K60=c(3,8),K120=c(4,9),K180=c(5,10))))</span></div>
<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="text-align: justify; line-height: 19px; font-family: 'Courier New';">DesAinK</span></div>
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<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;">Espero que tenhamos sanado
sua duvida.</div>
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<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;">Att.</div>
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<div style="line-height: normal; font-family: Tahoma;">Tiago.</div>
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Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:21:23 -0200<br>From: jhguilhen@gmail.com<br>To:
r-br@listas.c3sl.ufpr.br; camposagro@yahoo.com.br<br>Subject: Re: [R-br]
Experimento fatorial. Desdobramento<br><br>Uma outra maneira de fazer isto e bem
mais fácil é utilizar o pacote ExpDes, ele já faz o desdobramento
automaticamente quando dá interação e bem fácil de
utilizar.<br><br>Atte..<br><br><br><br>
<div class="yiv409858492ecxgmail_quote">Em 16 de novembro de 2012 21:41, Odirley Campos <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:camposagro@yahoo.com.br" target="_blank" href="mailto:camposagro@yahoo.com.br">camposagro@yahoo.com.br</a>></span>
escreveu:<br>
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<div style="font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">
<div><span>#Pessoal! Boa noite ! <br></span></div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px;">#Estou
tentando sem sucesso fazer o desdobramento de interações com R. Cheguei a
baixar alguns arquivos da net no endereço "<span style="text-decoration:underline;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.leg.ufpr.br/doku.php/ridiculas#desdobramento_de_interacao_em_experimento_fatorial">http://www.leg.ufpr.br/doku.php/ridiculas#desdobramento_de_interacao_em_experimento_fatorial</a></span>"
. Porêm tive o mesmo problema que tive com meus dados. <br></div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px;">#Usei
os mesmos comandos retirados da net para os dados tirados de lá. A anova
"geral" saiu normalmente:</div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px;"><br></div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px;">>rend<-read.table("C:\\Program
Files\\R\\RDADOS\\UFPR1.txt",h=T) #após armezenar arquivo no meu PC#</div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px;">>rend<br></div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px;">>m1
<- aov(rg~bloc+A/K, data=rend)</div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px;">>summary(m1)
#Anova geral saiu norma sem problemas#<br></div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px;">
Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value Pr(>F)
<br>bloc <a rel="nofollow" href="">1 51.3 51.3
3.585</a> 0.0624 .
<br>A
1 495.6 495.6 34.633 1.2e-07
***<br>A:K 1
2213.7 2213.7 154.712 < 2e-16 ***<br>Residuals 71
1015.9
14.3
<br>---<br>Signif. codes: 0 ‘***’ 0.001 ‘**’ 0.01 ‘*’ 0.05 ‘.’ 0.1 ‘ ’ 1
<br></div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px;"><br></div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px;">>summary(m1,split=list("A:K"=list("A-37.5"=c(1,4,7,10),"A-50.0"=c(2,5,8,11),"A-62.5"=c(3,6,9,12))))
#<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0);"><span>Mas o desdobramento não
mostra Quadrado médio nem mesmo, F-value ou mesmo o P-value. O que eu posso
ter feito de errado??</span></span><br></div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px;">
Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value Pr(>F)
<br>bloc
1 51.3 51.3 3.585 0.0624
.
<br>A
1 495.6 495.6 34.633 1.2e-07
***<br>A:K 1
2213.7 2213.7 154.712 < 2e-16 ***<br> A:K: A-37.5
4
<br> A:K: A-50.0
4
<br> A:K: A-62.5
4
<br>Residuals 71 1015.9
14.3
<br>---<br>Signif. codes: 0 ‘***’ 0.001 ‘**’ 0.01 ‘*’ 0.05 ‘.’ 0.1 ‘ ’
1 </div><span class="yiv409858492ecxHOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<div style="text-align: center; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Odirley
Campos<br>Engenheiro Agrônomo
UFV/MG<br></div></font></span></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div> </div></div>
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